An Interview with Lyn Paul
Blood Brothers’ definitive ‘Mrs Johnstone’ Lyn Paul on returning to a defining role, life in ‘Cabaret’ and working with Coca-Cola…
Welcome back to Blood Brothers! It must be like greeting an old friend!
It certainly is! Oh my goodness, it’s two and a half years since I last did it. So yes, it is like greeting an old friend, absolutely – but terrifying at the same time!
Terrifying? You must know the part in your sleep now!
You know what, strangely enough, I was lying in bed the other night going through the opening song and I reached one part, but for the life of me couldn’t remember the rest of it. I had to get up and go downstairs to get the script and go through it! At four-o’clock in the morning, ridiculous! So it’s playing on my mind obviously!
Once you start rehearsals, will you treat it as a new show, particularly as you’ll be with a new cast?
I will treat it like a new show. Obviously it’s easier because I do know what I’m doing and because it is so well directed. When I first started it was directed by Bill Kenwright and also Bob Tomson, so all those notes I have I’ve still got written down and a lot of that will come back to me because I think the way they directed it is just second to none. I’m desperately looking forward to going back and bringing that with me.
You played the role of Mrs Johnstone from 1997 right up until 2000, then revised it in 2008 and then again in 2012 for the final two weeks of its West End run – fair to say it’s your ultimate role?
Oh absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt! Mrs J is just me. Everything that she’s going through I feel, the way Willy Russell has written it is so easy to get over to an audience as it’s actually written as you would speak. Sometimes, when people write a script, you look at it and think, “well, that’s not how I would say it”. But this is so perfectly written and so easy, it just flows, and I just feel that Mrs J is me, so it makes it very easy to play.
No doubt a huge factor when accepting the role again for the 2016 tour?
Absolutely. And also, because of Bill. When I first played Mrs J, I was doing cabaret and he took me away from all that. I wrote to Bill and asked him if he would consider me for the role of Mrs J, he sent me a letter back by return post, and less than three weeks later I was waiting on the stage at the Phoenix Theatre (West End) to start rehearsals and I cannot tell you what it did to me. I’d never acted and I thought, “oh my god, I can’t do this!” But Bill showed so much faith in me that I will always go back. He’s only got to click his fingers and I’ll be straight in, no problem.
“Give it a go”
So it was a chance letter that changed your life?
Oh yes, absolutely. I didn’t know Bill although I knew Carl Wayne. He was the Narrator at that point. He came to see me in a cabaret show I was in down the road from the Phoenix Theatre and he told me “you know, you should go and audition for Mrs Johnstone”. I didn’t even know Blood Brothers. So I asked him about it and said, “I can’t, I don’t act.” But he said I should give it a go. So I went back and discussed it with my mum and she said: “Oh Bill Kenwright, he’s a very nice man”.
I said, “How do you know, you’ve never met him?” She said: “Well I’ve seen him interviewed and he’s a very nice man, write to him!” Typical northern mum! So I did. I wrote and just said “would you consider seeing me for the role of Mrs J? I’m not Liverpudlian but I can get into the accent.” I gave him all that, and I posted it off. Two days later I got a return letter saying: “Don’t worry about the Liverpudlian accent love, we’ll sort that. You don’t need one, you’re a northerner, and I’d love to see you.” And that was it. And from that moment on we became good friends.
While Blood Brothers is what you’re synonymous with, you also toured with Cabaret for Bill – how did you get involved with that?
I got an email from him which said he’d like to put you up for Fräulein Schneider, how would you feel about it? I wrote back and said I would love it, he sent me the script and the parts he wanted me to do, asked me to come into the office, I went in and went through the songs, went up to Bill’s office, we went through the scenes and that was that. Bill has been a very good friend to me and a very good boss, he’s been very loyal to me and I will always be there.
You starred in Cabaret with Will Young, who started out as a pop star like you did – how hard or easy was it to develop acting skills, particularly with no experience?
Well, you’re not being yourself. It’s totally different to standing on stage and being yourself and having to make a speech at the end of a gig. I’m useless at that. But when you go on stage and you’re playing a character, it just seems to happen for me. Especially Mrs J because I can relate to her so well being a northern mum. Especially having gone through a lot of struggles in my life, lots of lows. I can relate to her to a great extent. So I feel that it just comes, it just happens.
A lot of people will also know you as a member of the New Seekers and singing that well-known, world-famous song ‘I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing’. Can you clear up my confusion over it – did you record it for Coca-Cola or after the ad came out?
We recorded the advert first for Coca-Cola. Then everybody said: “Wow, that’s a fantastic song.” Although the five of us just looked at each other and said, “What?” (laughs). But everybody turned out to be right and we went into the studio and recorded the single and the rest is history. And it crops up all the time. It was in the last ever episode of Mad Men too. It was a perfect way to end that show and a very proud moment for us too.
Do you get recognised?
It depends on the fan. Strangely enough, I haven’t been recognised in donkey’s years and it happened twice over the last couple of years. Once when I went into Starbucks in London when I was doing the two weeks of Blood Brothers for Bill, and somebody said, “I saw you last night on stage.” Which I suppose is an obvious one as they’d only seen me the night before! (laughs) But the other time I was in Staines and I went into Sainsbury’s and I asked the lady behind the till for some stamps. She said: “Are you a singer?” I said yes and just stood there because that’s the first time that had happened for ages! I came out the shop and said to my husband Alan: “I wish you’d been there, I’ve just been recognised!” (laughs).
Blood Brothers is a very moving show, have you come across any fans that have told you how much it has touched their lives and stayed with them?
I got a letter once from a woman who had a son who was in jail. She said she sat watching it and it was the only time she’d ever seen anybody portray on stage a jail sequence that is exactly as it is. And she said she cried and cried. So if that’s one example, can you imagine how other people must relate to other parts of it. Everyone’s gone through highs and lows and a lot of what Mrs J’s gone through. And Mrs Lyons. And Mickey and Eddie.
Having known this show for so many years, have you any advice for those who are starring in it for the very first time?
The only thing I would say is that touring with Blood Brothers is like one big family. In all the years I’ve been doing it, it always has been. Everyone does everything together. So I would tell them to embrace it, enjoy it and let’s get the camaraderie going that we’ve always had.
So you can boast a pop career, a musical theatre career and you’ve done television too! What have been your highlights so far?
Obviously there are so many, I’ve had a very charmed career. And although I’ve had lots of bad times, I’ve had some incredible highs too. But Blood Brothers has to be the highlight. Not necessarily because of the show, but because of what it led to. Bill took me on just on faith. Once I went into Blood Brothers with Bill, he introduced me to my agent, who then put me into Emmerdale. But Mrs J in Blood Brothers is such an iconic role to play. So although it might sound as though I’m crawling here, it’s changed my life. It gave me a new career. I was going up and down the country doing cabaret and Bill took me away from all that. I’ve never gone back. So why would that not be the biggest thing that has ever happened to me?